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Pressure building on Packers bosses

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By Rob Reischel

GREEN BAY, Wis. — Never let them see you sweat.

During Ted Thompson's five-year stint as the Green Bay Packers' general manager, this has been his mantra. When dealing with a press corps that has its fair share of tigers, Thompson is almost Buddha-like. No matter how edgy or probing a question may be, Thompson's tone, body language and approach never vary. Some wonder if the man ever blinks, let alone perspires.

But on Aug. 18, it's a good bet a bead or two of sweat formed on Thompson's brow. Same goes for Packers head coach Mike McCarthy.

That was the day former Green Bay legend Brett Favre signed with Minnesota, the Packers' most hated rival.

Thompson and McCarthy were already on the hot seat following the Packers' dismal 6-10 season in 2008. Now, with Favre in the division seeking revenge on the team that sent him packing last summer, that seat went from hot to scalding.

"You're a fool if you don't realize this is a business and take note of what's going on around you," Packers LB Aaron Kampman said. "We all know it's a large year around here, an important year. That's probably an understatement. Big year for everyone here, yes."

Just 19 months ago, Thompson and McCarthy were living large. The general manager had overhauled the depleted roster that former coach and GM Mike Sherman left behind. McCarthy brought renewed energy and imagination to a team that desperately needed both. And Thompson and McCarthy received a lion's share of the credit when the Packers went 13-3 and then reached the '07 NFC title game.

Contrast that to today, when the natives are restless and jobs are on the line.

Green Bay's seven-game slide from 2007 to last year was the greatest in team history. It also tied lowly Detroit for the league's biggest drop in wins in '08.

If the losing wasn't bad enough, the organization took a major public-relations hit from the Favre fiasco, one that eventually led to the future Hall of Fame quarterback being traded to the New York Jets. While many fans sided with Packers management, the Favre loyalists came out in full force, as well.

That led to something many never believed to be possible in Green Bay: a divided fan base.

It all added up to a bleak year in Green Bay, which has led to a make-or-break '09 for many in the organization.

"A guy or a team can go from being the talk of the NFL to being ripped like crazy," LB A.J. Hawk said. "It's just a crazy sport how it works.

"Obviously, going 6-10 last year and how we did it, that doesn't sit well with anyone in here. This is a high-pressure job for everybody. Everyone's always getting evaluated — coaches, players, everybody. And I'm sure this year is huge for a lot of us."

Starting with Thompson.

Thompson trained under Ron Wolf in Green Bay for eight years in the 1990s but hasn't had the same level of success as his legendary mentor. During Thompson's first four seasons, the Packers are 31-33 (.484), have reached the playoffs only once, and their magical 2007 season was the only year they've been above .500.

"It doesn't sound very good when you put it that way," Thompson said. "Yeah, it's a tough league. Especially last year, we were disappointed in the record last year. We felt like it should have been better, and that's my responsibility, so we're going to try to do better."

Thompson has never been popular among the fan base because he guards every morsel of information as if he's working for national security. In a city where the fan base owns the team, running a covert operation — especially when you're not winning — doesn't fly.

Thompson also largely ignores free agency, choosing instead to build through the draft and then re-sign his own players. And while Thompson's drafts have been largely successful, they haven't been enough to consistently get the Packers over the hump.

Thompson appears to have made the right decision in picking 25-year-old Aaron Rodgers over Favre last summer. Of course, Favre could laugh last this season by leading Minnesota to the top of the NFC North and deep into the postseason.

Packers president Mark Murphy supported Thompson and McCarthy throughout the Favre ordeal, and beyond. But former president Bob Harlan hired Thompson, and if the Packers stumble again in 2009 and the Vikings soar, Murphy could certainly make some changes.

"I think, in the NFL, every year's a big year," Murphy said. "You obviously saw last year how quickly things can change. But I have confidence in both of them, and I think they made the changes and did what they needed to do to turn things around and make sure we have a successful year this year."

Just two seasons ago, McCarthy was the runner-up to Bill Belichick in The Associated Press' Coach of the Year voting. He's also a forward thinker offensively who has been largely credited with Rodgers' development.

McCarthy was given a five-year, $20 million contract extension after the 2007 campaign and then proceeded to have his worst coaching season.

"I'll tell you this: I always refer to it as the lessons of 2008," McCarthy said. "It gets me up every day. It still burns my gut."

McCarthy fired eight assistant coaches from his 2008 staff and nudged former special-teams coach Mike Stock into retirement. McCarthy then hired Dom Capers — a former head coach in Carolina and Houston — to rescue a defense that gave up more points than any other Packers team in 22 years.

Capers is giving Green Bay's defense a makeover and switching to a 3-4 scheme. But if that transition takes time and the desired results are slow, the reaper could come calling for McCarthy.

"I don't view it that way," McCarthy said. "I'm thankful to be here today talking to you, if you can believe that. I'm serious. I have the best job in professional sports. I'm excited to coach these guys. I'm just excited that I am up here in 2009, ready to go."

What 2010 holds — for both McCarthy and Thompson — is far less certain.

 

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scotsha
It is an agree-disagree situation for me here. The true Green Bay fans stayed loyal to the Team and supported Ted Thompson and McCarthy. While the pressure is surely on these guys, maybe even up a notch, it certainly isn't do or die this year. The division is going to be rough this year and what they truly need to show is that Packers can build upward and compete against the Bears and Vikings. Both of those teams leveraged their future to win at all costs this year. Favre is a circus every year and Bears have an aging Defense on its last legs in the next 2yrs. Lions have cleaned house and are rebuilding. At the end of the day I hope Packer fans are as excited about this season as I am. Firmly believe Ted Thompson has done a great job working with McCarthy to build a highly competitive for many more years. I get the same chills when Holmgren and Wolf started to methodically build a 90's powerhouse under Favre. They had Favre and Reggie White. McCarthy/Thompson have Rodgers and Raji.
jakeblack
Tough decision for these guys, no matter which way they went with Favre there would have been reprocussions. Scotsha I don't see how the Vikings have "mortgaged their future" for 2010. They are a young, strong team who has used free agency and the draft well to build an exciting team on both sides of the ball. Now with Favre at QB, if he stays healty, they have a hall of fame QB with the football smarts and experience to take them to a super bowl. They have nothing to lose by signing him for a few years and see what happens. They did not have to trade any players or give up any draft picks. Smart move if you ask me. No matter how some might view Favre as fickle every offseason, when he steps on the field all that is forgotten. No denying he is a winner. I do agree the Bears have sold the farm to get Cutler who I think is overrated and immature.
Black_Hat
I, for one, am ecstatic that the Powers that be in Green Bay, dealt Favre last year. Would Favre alone made that much of a difference in last year's record? Not with that defense. He may have been able to pull one or two games back in the end but his arm would have broken down just the same in GB as it did in NY. Which begs this question: WHAT would THIS year have been like? It would be quite possible that Rodgers would have walked after 4 years of being on the bench, the Packers would be stuck (maybe) with an aged QB, who's BEST days are clearly in the rear view mirror, and WHO as the future QB?? The Packers' front office had a VERY tough hand to play in regards to Favre and his legion of fans. With Rodgers' first season (and a pretty successful one, at that) under his belt, a bevy of weapons around him and a revamped defense, the Packers pushing "ALL in" with Rodgers, was in my opinion, the WINNING play for the future of the franchise.
shawnpe
The right decision was made by moving Favre last year and The fan base is getting back together with the stellar performance by Aaron Rodgers thus far this pre-season. One could even say there is a growing anti-Favre sentiment here in the land of Green and Gold. Perhaps I only speak for myself when I express my disappointment in my former hero and his childish behavior over the last 4 or 5 years. Holding my dearest franchise hostage every off season and handcuffing the GM's every draft during that time, having to take QB's prematurely when the team had other needs. I would argue that it was Favre crying "retirement" for three years that caused the lack of defensive depth that was so brilliantly exposed last season. Scapegoat, Maybe, but not far from the realm of possibility. As for his behavior last training camp, I've known two year olds who handle "no!" better than Brett. The guy want to practice less than Allan Iverson for cying out loud, and we tore him up for it. Favre deserves no less shredding for his laziness (regardless of aches, pains and age). Can he perform... Yes. Can he beat Green Bay with Minnesota... Yes. Will he... ??? Regardless of outcome in the games and the standings... the right decision was made. There is another concern of mine going into these games. IF Brett should get hurt in this game (and oh what irony that would be) I would hope we Packer fans can take the high road and keep in mind the career and not how he once again minipulated ALL involved to get his shot at revenge. Goodell, ESPN & Jaws, the Jets, the Pack, and most recently the Vikings are all on the list of people and organizations that Brett Favre has made his own personal patsies. Patsies in his quest for revenge against the franchise that gave him enough rope to let him grow into the bonafied hall of famer he now is. While he was great here and gave me something great to remember, and I do thank him for that, Kick his butt Green Bay.
jakeblack
shawnpe, I have to agree with you that GB made the right decision if they wanted to have Rodgers as their new QB. It did not seem he was going to be satisfied to continue to sit on the bench. And, he has shown he has the talent to lead the team. I think the problem is that Favre was viable and wanted to continue to play, longer than the ownership thought he would and it created that friction. Even as a Vikings fan I always respected Favre (unlike many I am able to respect opponents). Favre is a driven, highly competitive person with oustanding QB talent. The same emotional energy and desires that made him a rare talent at QB in his prime, are still there even as the body ages. Why can't people respect that he still wants to play (in a place where he is wanted as the starter), and that he still wants to win? Why does he have to fit some predetermined mold and quietly fade into the sunset if he does not want to? Packers owndership needed to look out for the future of their ball club, why can't Favre look out for his own future too? Owners change their mind on coaches, strategies, players all the time. Its okay for them to change their approach or strategy or commitments, but not for a player? I think there is too much harsh judgement of Favre. And I felt this way long before it looked like he might be a Viking. Also, I doubt Favre came back to deal with all this, just to get "revenge" on the Packers. This revenge angle, it might be easiest for Packer fans to look at it that way. But do you really think Favre now hates his fans and good friends on the Packers team and wants to punish them all? Isn't it a bit more feasible that Favre still has that itch to play, he has only had one losing season in his entire career. His past few years he played very well. Look at 2007. He was top rated in 2008 prior to getting hurt. He has a chance to lead a talent-laden team, that wants him to lead, and he has one more shot at some glory. You all know Brett Favre, is it such a stretch to believe he is not ready to tow the line and do what everyone else wants him to do, and that he still wants to play? He is a rare competitor who does not want to give up the game yet. As to injury, "can he stay healthy", any player, any age, any team can get injured and mess up their season. Look at Brady, Matt Schaub, etc. I hope Favre has a great season and proves to all those who are rooting for his failure that they were wrong and he still can play and make a difference. I think he can.
john coblentz
Why do people always say the Packers sent Brett Favre packing????? Didn't he retire? When he changed his mind in early summer '08 didn't the GM and coach get on a plane to go sign him but were told by Favre he had changed his mind again???? And when he changed his mind again and said he wanted to play in Aug of '08,Thompson and McCarthy asked if he was willing to commit and his answer was "I can't commit",in response they said "then we have to move forward with Rodgers".Favre could have stepped up and committed to the team but HE chose not to.To me this doesn't sound like they RAN little Brett packing.

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